[Rd] need gui matrix editor: does R Core team have advice on how?

From: Paul Johnson <pauljohn32_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:59:31 -0600


ink1">Dear R-devel:

Would R core team consider endorsing a graphical toolkit and trying to facilitate development of little GUI tools?

I need a gui matrix editor for users that want to be able to write matrices that are later used to simulate data. Instead of teaching them to write a covariance matrix (for example, for mvtnorm), I want to tell them run a function that pops up a table they can fill in.

The users need to be able to enter variable names in the matrix, so something that would accept

a 0 0
0 b 0
c d e

would be great. Something that would accept formulae like this would be even more great.

a 0 0
0 b a^2
c d e

I want this gui matrix editor to "just work" on Windows, Mac, Linux. I don't mind building this on top of some widget set, but it is important that the widget set be easily installable on the user end.

That's why I wish R core would offer us some guidance or advice. I'm not a programmer, but I can learn to program with a library, as long as it is not a waste of time.

I've been searching R archives and here's what I found so far.

  1. tcl/tk

Building on R tcltk2, for people that have the Tcl addon widget TkTable installed, there are several packages. in tcltk2 itself, there is a function tk2edit, and there are others that try to embellish. I've tried several of these, they seem to be not-quite done yet, one can't copy a rectangle, for example. But maybe I could learn how to fix them up and make yet another tktable based editor.

Problem: requires user to have enough understanding to install the Tcl widget TkTable. And, for platforms like Windows, user has to install tcl/tk itself. On Linux and Mac, that is not as big of a hurdle, so far as I can tell. On Debian linux, I found that in a package libtktable that works, but I have no idea how tough that would be on other linux systems or Macintosh or Windows.

Another problem is that tcl/tk editions change rapidly, and on several of our systems, we still don't have access to tcl/tk 8.5 (RedHat/Centos based clusters still running version 5 are like that).

2. Gtk

Building on Rgtk, I found the package RGtk2Extras. This of course requires a function gtk tool chain, which used to be a big problem on the various platforms. But the function dfedit appears to be almost exactly what I'm looking for. I can create a character matrix and put in letters how I want, but I later face the problem of how to evaluate the matrix.

Problem: even more than tcl/tk, GTK versions change and become incompatible, especially across platforms.

What about QT or WX-Widgets. I gather RkWard is built on KDE, and hence Qt. I don't find matrix editors using those languages, but I don't know why not.

Maybe this is impossible for R core to advise us because you may disagree on which widget library is best, but if there is some consensus, I would be glad to know because I would do whatever you recommend.

I'm pretty sure that, if you said, "use library X, version XYZ", then the worldwide usage of R is sufficiently broad that people would step forward and help make sure those libraries are packaged for all OS. I mean, if there were no tktable package for any linux for which I make packages (RedHat, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu), I would create the packages. But I'm not doing it now because I have no reason to believe that is a good path from here on out.

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

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