Re: [Rd] Google Summer of Code 2009

From: Friedrich Leisch <Friedrich.Leisch_at_stat.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:08:02 +1100

>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:25:35 -0600, >>>>> Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote:

> On 20 February 2009 at 12:06, Friedrich Leisch wrote:
> | >>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:52:19 -0600,
> | >>>>> Dirk Eddelbuettel (DE) wrote:
> |
> | > [ Cool how nobody cared about Fritz' request not to post ideas yet :) ]
> |
> | Well, I kind of expected that ;-)
> |
> | See also below.
> |
> | > [ I broadly share Oleg's "wouldn't it be nice to have better plot devices"
> | > wish. But I don't think it is a three-month summer target,
> |
> | Yes, that's exactly what came to my mind first: As usual, please do
> | read docs before you post ... in this case the format of SOC (I
> | included the link in my original email, googling for "summer of code"
> | will also take you there): a student is paid to code three months for
> | us, the 3 months inlcude writing documentation. The student will not
> | be an expert in R internals, and no magic wizard. The student should
> | familiarize himself with the project before the actual coding period,
> | but there is only so much you can do in limited time. I think you can
> | expect a similar amount of code as in a master/diploma thesis (but
> | NOT a dissertation).
> |
> | If you had waited for Manuels email you would also have learned about
> | another VERY IMPORTANT POINT: The collection of ideas for summer of
> | code is not like writing a list of wishes to Santa Claus (or the
> | Christkind or whatever your local variation may be): we only need
> | ideas which YOU ARE WILLING TO MENTOR, i.e., you write the specs for
> | the project, communicate with students interested in the project,
> | select the best applicant and supervise the student during the coding
> | period. I am not sure everyone on this thread is aware about this (if
> | all of you were I apologize). If you propose an idea, you
> | simultaneously agree to volunteer a considerable amount of your own
> | time. But that time can really be worth the effort (otherwise we
> | wouldn't be doing it).

> I am not sure if you're lecturing just to me or the audience at
> large;

Of course to the audfiance at large, I know that you know the rules of the game. That I answered your email, in the thread was more or less chance. Sorry if I gave a wrong impression (wouldn't have possibly thought that you could feel addressed personally).

My sincere apologies!!!

> I would at this point also like to correct something you said in
> the earlier mail where you said that may get "four to six
> slots". I am doubtful about that. O verall number of GSoC slots
> are _down_ as per Leslie. We have no priors on whether more or
> less organisations are admitted or not. If I were a betting man,
> I'd say three to four slots.

OK, didn't know that number of slots is down (should probably read the docs better myself). I was assuming that the number of slots is approx the same, and hoping for more slots in the second year (because I know that all organizations get fewer in their first year).

Best,
Fritz



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