Re: [R] ML optimization question--unidimensional unfolding scalin g

From: Peter Muhlberger <peterm_at_andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri 04 Nov 2005 - 05:02:16 EST


Hi Spencer: Just realized I may have misunderstood your comments about branching--you may have been thinking about a restart. Sorry if I misrepresented them.

See below:

On 11/3/05 11:03 AM, "Spencer Graves" <spencer.graves@pdf.com> wrote:

> Hi, Andy and Peter:
>
> That's interesting. I still like the idea of making my own local
> copy, because I can more easily add comments and test ideas while
> working through the code. I haven't used "debug", but I think I should
> try it, because some things occur when running a function that don't
> occur when I walk through it line by line, e.g., parsing the "call" and
> "..." arguments.
>

Debug's handy tho I think it is line by line.

> Two more comments on the original question:
>
> 1. What is the structure of your data? Have you considered
> techniques for Multidimensional Scaling (MDS)? It seems that your
> problem is just a univariate analogue of the MDS problem. For metric
> MDS from a complete distance matrix, the solution is relatively
> straightforward computation of eigenvalues and vectors from a matrix
> computed from the distance matrix, and there is software widely
> available for the nonmetric MDS problem. For a terse introduction to
> that literature, see Venables and Ripley (2002) Modern Applied
> Statistics with S, 4th ed. (Springer, "distance methods" in sec. 11.1,
> pp. 306-308).
>

I was looking for something on MDS in R, that'll be handy!

The data structure is a set of variables (say about 6) that I have reason to believe measure an underlying dimension. I suspect that several of the variables are unfolding--that is, they have their highest value for some point on the scale and fall off w/ distance from that point in either direction. The degree of fall-off may vary depending on the variable. Some seem to fall off very rapidly, others not. A couple variables probably monotonically increase w/ the underlying scale, so they don't unfold. I can construct a distance matrix consisting of distances between these variables.

Do you think MDS might be able to handle an arrangement like this, w/ some values folded about a scale point and with drop-off varying between variables? The distances between the variables do not map in any straightforward way into distances on the underlying scale because of folding and non-linearity.

> 2. If you don't have a complete distance matrix, might it be
> feasible to approach the problem starting small and building larger,
> i.e., start with 3 nodes, then add a fourth, etc.?
>

Not sure I follow, but I do have a complete distance matrix of distances between the variables.

> spencer graves

Thanks,

Peter



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