Re: [Rd] orphaning CRAN packages

From: Ted Harding <>
Date: Sat 09 Apr 2005 - 15:16:35 GMT

On 09-Apr-05 Uwe Ligges wrote:
> (Ted Harding) wrote:

>> It would be serious if 'norm' were to lapse, since it is
>> part of the 'norm+cat+mix+pan' family, and people using any
>> of these are likely to have occasion to use the others.
>> I'd offer to try to clean up 'norm' myself if only I were
>> up-to-date on R itself (I'm waiting for 2.1.0 to come out,
>> which I understand is scheduled to happen soon, yes?).

> Ted, that's great!
> R-2.1.0 is scheduled to be released on April 18 (see
> It would be even better if you could try out the recent beta
> release of R-2.1.0 right now in order to spot some possible
> bugs before release.
> So it is the perfect occasion to clean up "norm" on R-2.1.0 beta
> this weekend. ;-)

Well, I'll see what I can do ... though this weekend may not offer a lot of free time!

Bearing in mind Martin's and Dirk's comments, going for 2.1.0-beta right now seems unlikely to lead to any grief compared with waiting for the final release. So at any rate I could start looking at it over the next week sometime.

However, there's a question or two.

  1. Simply for the sake of having a look at 'norm', I think this may depend only on things which are part of R-base, so I should not need to download any "recommended" packages. Or are there things in "recommended" which are likely to be presumed? (I've always taken such things for granted since they have been installed by default when I've installed from RPMs; I've not done a full R compilation before, at least not for several years).
  2. Is there a way to get, off CRAN say, a listing of which packages are "recommended"?

   I suffer from slow connection (5min/MB if I'm lucky,    and lucky to stay fully connected for more than an hour    or two -- even R-base is going to take at least an hour),    so I don't want to just connect and do      tools/rsync-recommended
   as suggested on CRAN since this may silently drop into    a black hole at some point.

   I'd sooner do it all piecemeal, knowing what's supposed    to be on the way and able to start again at that point    if there are problems. But this means knowing which are    the recommended ones.

(This, by the way, is why I'd been waiting for 2.1.0, since it then becomes worth while making an expedition to a fast connection or negotiating with someone to do me a CD; but with the above assurances I suppose I can go ahead now anyway!)

Best wishes,

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Date: 09-Apr-05                                       Time: 16:16:35
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