Re: time series in R

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Subject: Re: time series in R
From: Prof Brian D Ripley (
Date: Tue 20 Jul 1999 - 16:22:12 EST

Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9907200716520.5672-100000@auk.stats>

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Ross Ihaka wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote:
> > > 3. On the definition question: The existing FFT implementation
> > > uses a particular definition for the discrete transform which
> > > is pretty standard. (Edwards "Fourier Series", Brillinger
> > > "Time Series" etc.) Using another definition may complicate
> > > documentation.
> >
> > That's the simple part. But what is the divisor in the periodogram? Which
> > way do lags go in acfs of bivariate series, and which sign is the phase for
> > bivariate spectra?
> Once you settle the forward discrete transform much of this is settled.

Isn't that the tail wagging the dog?

> No constant in the dft implies
> Periodogram = |dft|^2/(2*pi*T)

Why is the 2*pi there? It is in Bloomfield, but not Brockwell & Davis, for
example. And S-PLUS divides by the fequency to make the periodogram
estimate the spectral density.

> Phases in spectra also fall out if you take a +ve exponent in the dft.
But you have to decide which of series i and j gets the complex conjugate.
(Same issue with acfs: second relative to first or first relative to
second? It's like defining `lags'.)

> I don't much mind about these choices, but its probably a good idea to
> be consistent.

Consistent with whom?

Brian D. Ripley,        
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University of Oxford,             Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
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