From: Stefanie Von Felten <SVonfelten_at_uhbs.ch>

Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:26:25 +0200

Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:26:25 +0200

Dear Josh,

Thanks for your help!

Does your answer mean, that you agree the two methods should do the same, and what I was guessing, despite the small differences?

What I prefer about ci.pd is, that the help clearly says which method is implemented, which is not the case for prop.test. But I do not know who has programmed the function.

Best wishes

Steffi

Stefanie von Felten, PhD

Statistician

Clinical Trial Unit, CTU

University Hospital Basel

Schanzenstrasse 55

CH-4031 Basel

Phone: ++41(0)61 556 54 98

*>>> Joshua Wiley 05.04.11 15.59 Uhr >>>
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Hi Stefanie,

Just to be clear, we are talking about differences in the third or lower decimal place (at least with R version 2.13.0 alpha (2011-03-17 r54849), Epi_1.1.20). This strikes me as small enough that both functions may be implementing the same method, but maybe slightly different ways of going about it?

If you are really concerned and need to know *exactly*, look at the source code for both functions. In case you did not know, if you type the function name at the console with parentheses or any arguments, just like:

*> prop.test
**> ci.pd
*

it will show the actual function code. It looks to me like both of them are implemented purely in R, and without even calling any other complex functions (at least based on a quick glance through). This means if you have the Newscomb text, you should be able to sit down and go through the code step by step comparing it.

Cheers,

Josh

FYI, you can use a matrix with prop.test, and then its transpose for ci.pd.
##

mymat <- cbind(Successes = c(21, 41), Failures = c(345, 345) - c(21, 41))
require(Epi)

results <- list(prop.test(mymat, correct=FALSE), ci.pd(t(mymat)))
results[[1]][["conf.int"]] - results[[2]][6:7]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Stefanie Von Felten wrote:

> Hello,

*>
**> Does anyone know which method from Newcombe (1998)* is implemented in prop.test for comparing two proportions?
**> I would guess it is the method based on the Wilson score (for single proportion), with and without continuity correction for prop.test(..., correct=FALSE) and prop.test(..., correct=TRUE). These methods would correspond to no. 10 and 11 tested in Newcombe, respectively. Can someone confirm this? If not, which other methods are implemented by prop.test?
**>
**> * Newcombe R.G. (1998) Two-Sided Confidence Intervals for the Single Proportion: Comparison of Seven Methods. Statistics in Medicine *17*, 857-872.
**>
**> There is also the function ci.pd() from the R-package Epi, which should implement method no. 10 from Newcombe. However, prop.test(..., correct=FALSE) and ci.pd do not give the same result if I do the following:
**>
**> successes <- c(21, 41)
**> total <- c(345, 345)
**> prop.test(successes, total, correct=FALSE)
**> library(Epi)
**> ci.pd(matrix(c(successes, total-successes),ncol=2, byrow=TRUE))
**>
**> Can someone explain why?
**>
**> Best wishes
**> Stefanie von Felten
**>
**>
**> Stefanie von Felten, PhD
**> Statistician
**> Clinical Trial Unit, CTU
**> University Hospital Basel
**> Schanzenstrasse 55
**> CH-4031 Basel
**>
**> Phone: ++41(0)61 556 54 98
**>
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