Re: [Rd] Julia

From: oliver <oliver_at_first.in-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:06:21 +0100

On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:33:10PM -0500, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> On 12-03-05 6:58 PM, Hervé Pagès wrote:
> >Hi Oliver,
> >
> >On 03/05/2012 09:08 AM, oliver wrote:
> >>On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 03:53:28PM +0000, William Dunlap wrote:
> >>>I haven't used Julia yet, but from my quick reading
> >>>of the docs it looks like arguments to functions are
> >>>passed by reference and not by value, so functions
> >>>can change their arguments. My recollection from when
> >>>I first started using S (in the course of a job helping
> >>>profs and grad students do statistical programming, c. 1983)
> >>>is that not having to worry about in-place algorithms changing
> >>>your data gave S a big advantage over Fortran or C.
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>
> >>C also uses Call-by-Value.
> >
> >C *only* uses Call-by-Value.
>
> While literally true, the fact that you can't send an array by
> value, and must send the value of a pointer to it, kind of supports
> Bill's point: in C, you mostly end up sending arrays by reference.
[...]

It's a problem of how the term "reference" is used. If you want to limit the possible confsion, better say: giving the pointer-by-value.

Or: giving the address-value of the array/struct/... by value.

To say, you give the array reference is a shorthand, which maybe creates confusion.

Just avoiding the word "reference" here would make it more clear. AFAIK in C++ references are different to pointers. (Some others who know C++ in detail might explain this in detail.)

So, using the same terms for many different concepts can create a mess in understanding.

Ciao,

   Oliver



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