Re: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?

From: Dan Tenenbaum <dtenenba_at_fhcrc.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:31:58 -0700

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Prof Brian Ripley <ripley_at_stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> You should be capable of building R on Windows from the SVN sources or daily
> source tarballs.
>

We are.

> After all, when (as often happens) BioC has an inconsistent set of source or
> binaries (like released packages depending on unreleased packages, on
> unreleased versions), the BioC core team tell me to get the sources from
> your SVN.
>

We like to hew as closely as possible to what CRAN is doing. We like to build with the identical binaries that CRAN is using, if possible. If not, we build from source.

Dan

>
> On 27/03/2012 17:48, Dan Tenenbaum wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Duncan Murdoch
>> <murdoch.duncan_at_gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12-03-24 2:31 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12-03-24 10:53 AM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24.03.2012 06:58, Daniel Nordlund wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Dan Tenenbaum [mailto:dtenenba_at_fhcrc.org]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Daniel Nordlund
>>>>>>>> Cc: r-devel_at_r-project.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Nordlund
>>>>>>>> <djnordlund_at_frontier.com>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: r-devel-bounces_at_r-project.org [mailto:r-devel-bounces_at_r-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> project.org]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Tenenbaum
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: r-devel_at_r-project.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rd] Missing Windows binary for R-2.15RC?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The page
>>>>>>>>>> http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rtest.html
>>>>>>>>>> has a link to:
>>>>>>>>>> http://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/R-2.15.0rc-win.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, clicking on that link gives a 404 "Object not found'
>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FYI.
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I experienced the same error you did using the link you provided.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   However, if you use the CRAN mirror hosted by YOUR organization,
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> get the file. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think so:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cran.fhcrc.org/bin/windows/base/R-2.15.0rc-win.exe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gives me a 404 as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't look closely enough at what you were asking for (RC versus
>>>>>>> beta).  R-2.15RC may not have been up-loaded yet.  However, I just
>>>>>>> downloaded it from the original link that was posted, so it appears
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> available now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may have happened that the scripts generated the webpages before
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> binary was built and checked (since "beta" became "rc" yesterday).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they need manual tweaking at the conversion, and I did it after
>>>>> the
>>>>> first upload.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this happens again (which is pretty likely), you can manually
>>>>> download
>>>>> the previous version by editing the URL to put in "alpha" in place of
>>>>> "beta", or "beta" in place of "rc".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... or have a fixed name instead (on OS X we just use 2.15-branch which
>>>> is
>>>> unambiguous). For the record I find it extremely annoying that even the
>>>> installation target name changes in the installer - I keep having to
>>>> change
>>>> it to R-2.15 all the time, because I don't see why you would want to
>>>> have
>>>> alpha/beta/rc/release of the same R version installed in separate
>>>> directories by default  - but that may be just me ;). To a lesser degree
>>>> the
>>>> same applies to patch versions, but since those are released I could see
>>>> an
>>>> argument for that, even though in practice I think it is not useful
>>>> either
>>>> (because typically you just want to upgrade and not another copy).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm neutral about the name changes, but I don't think any of this is
>>> enough
>>> of a problem to be worth the time to fix.  If someone else wants to do
>>> it,
>>> then I'd be happy to let you take over.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks all of you for looking into this. Bioconductor usually needs
>> the binaries as soon as they are available so if there is a
>> sustainable way to solve this, we'd appreciate it very much.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>
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