Re: [Rd] optim bug (PR#9684)

From: Prof Brian Ripley <>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:02:56 +0100 (BST)

There quite a lot of these: optimize, uniroot, nlm for example.

I don't think the problem is large enough to merit another argument. It is tempting to move '...' up the argument list so that partial matching will not occur. I am not sure how far you can go: ?optim has positional matching for 'method', and ?optimize has abbreviations for lower and upper.

In R you rarely need to pass additional arguments in programming as lexical scoping can be used to capture them.

I'll do some experimenting.

On Tue, 15 May 2007, Bill Dunlap wrote:

> On Tue, 15 May 2007, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>> This is not a bug, but as documented on the help page:
>> ...: Further arguments to be passed to 'fn' and 'gr'. Beware of
>> partial matching to earlier arguments.
>> You have partial matching to 'upper'.
> We have this problem in optim(), integrate(),
> and probably other functions. These functions
> have a lot of arguments before the ..., using
> up a lot of partial matching space. Would you consider
> adding another argument to the tail end of
> their argument lists that would include the
> auxillary arguments?
> E.g.,
> optim <- function(par, fn, gr = NULL,
> method = c("Nelder-Mead", "BFGS", "CG", "L-BFGS-B", "SANN"),
> lower = -Inf, upper = Inf,
> control = list(), hessian = FALSE,
> ..., aux.args = list(...))
> If the user did not supply aux.args this would
> act like the old version. If the user did supply
> aux.args then the function could check that no
> unrecognized arguments were given to optim.
> optim might require 2 such arguments,
> aux.args.fn = list(...),
> (The forces you to know that the objective function
> is called 'fn', not integrate's 'f' or apply's 'FUN'.)
> I don't know what the best name for such an argument
> would be. If we added it, it would nice to make it
> the same in R and Splus.
>> On Mon, 14 May 2007, wrote:
>> 'optim' does not accept arguments called 'u'. Here is an example:
>>> R> fun<-function(x,u) (x-u)^2
>>> R> optim(7,fn=fun,u=9)
>>> Fehler in fn(par, ...) : Argument "u" fehlt (ohne Standardwert)
>>> Zusätzlich: Warning message:
>>> bounds can only be used with method L-BFGS-B in: optim(7, fn = fun, u = 9)
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