Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

From: Gabor Grothendieck <ggrothendieck_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 01:10:07 -0400

Just a few other points:

This sequence is a bit long. Perhaps there just needs to be a menu entry that goes directly to the package list from the menu. Also the word "overview" is not very descriptive of what a vignette is and in any case another step could be eliminated if the vignettes were listed right on the HTML help page near the top. These two items would reduce the number of steps from 5 to 3.

On 5/15/07, Seth Falcon <sfalcon_at_fhcrc.org> wrote:
> Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek@r-project.org> writes:
>
> > On May 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Duncan Murdoch <murdoch_at_stats.uwo.ca> writes:
> >>>> I'm interested in making vignettes more visible. Putting them on
> >>>> the
> >>>> menu is not the only way, but since you're offering to do the
> >>>> work, I
> >>>> think it's a good idea :-).
> >>>
> >>> Excellent :-)
> >>>
> >>>> A few questions:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Should packages need to take any action to register their
> >>>> vignettes, or should this happen automatically for anything that the
> >>>> vignette() function would recognize as a vignette?
> >>
> >> I do think this should be optional, and preferably an option that
> >> people have to opt in for.
>
> Just to make sure we are on the same page: you are advocating for an
> option that would be used by package developers to opt-in for their
> vignette to be registered.
>
> >> Some sort of vignette browser that packages can register with would
> >> in my view be better, and that could have a single menu entry.
> >> Menus can easily get swamped.
> >>
> >
> > I agree entirely.
> >
> > What puzzles me: why do we need yet another way to register
> > vignettes? What is wrong with vignette()?
>
> Vignettes are a great form of documentation for new users. These
> users are more likely to be most comfortable in the GUI environment
> and providing access to the vignettes via the GUI(s) seems like it
> adds a lot of value.
>
> I don't disagree with the assessment that a menu list isn't the worlds
> best vignette browser interface. But this approach has been
> reasonably successful for the Bioconductor project to make things
> easier for our Windows users. Perhaps most importantly, we have code
> that would require little modification to allow package authors to
> register vignettes in a Vignettes menu on Windows. I think this would
> be an improvement over what is available now.
>
> It would be great if this discussion generates interest in a more
> robust solution; my offer of help may be limited to polishing what
> we've been using in BioC.

>
> Cheers,
>
> + seth
>
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