Re: [R] kate editor for R

From: Ramon Diaz-Uriarte <>
Date: Fri 19 Jan 2007 - 15:09:40 GMT

Hi Dirk,

On Friday 19 January 2007 15:39, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> Ramon, Frank,
> Great discussion. Nothing like an editor feud over morning coffee. Just
> kidding.

Not at the "editor flame war" stage yet (nobody mentioned vim :-).

> On 19 January 2007 at 11:18, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
> | However, I specially missed:
> |
> | a) the possibility of opening as many R processes as I want, and placing
> | that buffer in wherever place and with whichever size I want.
> |
> | b) most of the rest of emacs, actually (hey, where did my shells go? and
> | my org-mode buffer? and my ...; not to talk about the keybindings).
> [ Thanks for the org-mode suggestion. That looks very useful. How do I get
> it to sync to my Palm, though? ;-) ]

I asked the same at the org-mode list some time back and there was a short thread
( The bottom line is this:
a) for the general org files, you send them to the palm as text, and you edit them there with a suitable editor (e.g., PalmED). If org-mode files are kept under version control, life becomes easier. b) dealing with calendar is a more serious problem. c) there seems to be some (not a lot of) interest in these issues, but things are not smooth yet.

(I am using my Palm a lot less now, so I am no longer even doing a) regularly).

> On 19 January 2007 at 07:12, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
> [...]
> | and I am used to its keybindings. But I prefer kate for printing and
> | for managing multiple files in a project. kate has a nice sidebar for
> | navigating the files, and indicates which files have been changed since
> As I am doing more C++ work, I glanced at oo-browser, sidebar, ecb (all in
> Debian/Ubuntu). Would a real Emacs hacker be able to these to R code too?

I use ecb with R directly out of the ecb box. No problem.

> | they were saved. kate also schematically depicts nested code with side
> | symbols connected by vertical lines for {}. Scrolling of the R output
> | window is a little more logical in kate than in ESS. I find myself
> | having to type Esc-shift-> often in ESS/Emacs to get to the bottom of
> | the R output but kate puts the cursor at the bottom. Also I get a
> | little frustrated with package management in Xemacs (I know however that
> | it's nice to be able to load thousands of packages) related to file
> | permissions, ftp commands, anonymous logins, etc. And from a purely
> | "looks" standpoint kate is superior.
> I switched back to GNU Emacs, using the emacs-snapshot-gtk package in
> Debian and Ubuntu. Prettier, and still emacs :) I get by without locally
> install elisp code in /usr/local -- everything I needed was apt-get'able.

I had problems with one of the packages ecb depends upon (semantic ?), and emacs-snapshot. IIRC it was a documented problem related to a bug in semantic (?); maybe it's been fixed now. But what does emacs-snapshot-gtk provide you now (besides the pretinness) that you'd miss with 21-4?


> Dirk

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