Re: [R] kate editor for R

From: Ramon Diaz-Uriarte <rdiaz02_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat 20 Jan 2007 - 10:20:01 GMT

On 1/20/07, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz@comcast.net> wrote:
> xft anti-aliasing is incorporated into the version 23 unicode trunk.
>
> So it looks great on a hi-res LCD panel. Without xft, even using
> Bitstream fonts, it was still pretty rough on the eyes.
>

Humm, call me silly, but most of the time I do not like anti-aliased fonts: I tend to agree with
http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq/entries/Blurred_fonts.html, where he says "characters look like having been dragged through mud" :-).

> It also fully supports GTK widgets, which is great if you are using
> GNOME, which I do.
>

But my .emacs gets rid of the toolbar and scroll bars on start-up (I find toolbars confusing things that take up precious screen space), and often work without the menubar (when I am doing familiar work). I use ion3 (http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/), which, together with wmii (and followed, at some distance, by fmwv), I find the most usable window managers, and thus the look of widgets is not that relevant to me.

So, for most practical purposes (except for resizing with the mouse) I use emacs as if started with the -w command. (I know, I know, this looks like going backwards ... must be a mid-life involution crisis :-).

> xft was added as a patch to version 22, but it was not very stable.
>
> Note that version 23 is in alpha status, so use at your own risk if you
> decide to pursue this. 21 is still the current stable release version,
> but 23 has been rock solid for me.
>
> I can provide you with a shell script to build it. Let me know.
>

Let me try with the debian packages, and if I have problems, I'll definitely start bugging you. Thanks a lot for your help!

Best,

R.

> Best regards,
>
> Marc
>
> On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 03:59 +0100, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! I'll give it a try. (But
> > still, why emacs23? what is missing in v. 21 that you get in 23?).
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > R.
> >
> > On 1/19/07, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 16:09 +0100, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > I had problems with one of the packages ecb depends upon (semantic ?), and
> > > > emacs-snapshot. IIRC it was a documented problem related to a bug in semantic
> > > > (?); maybe it's been fixed now. But what does emacs-snapshot-gtk provide you
> > > > now (besides the pretinness) that you'd miss with 21-4?
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Ramon,
> > >
> > > Just a quick heads up on the ECB issue.
> > >
> > > I am using Emacs 23 from CVS and had to update ECB and the associated
> > > packages to use this version of Emacs. I have emacs 23 installed and run
> > > from a separate download folder, so that I do not overwrite the
> > > installed stable version.
> > >
> > > I use the CEDET cedet-1.0pre3.tar.gz aggregate package from
> > > http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ as well as the ECB cvs snap shot package
> > > ecb.tar.gz from http://ecb.sourceforge.net/downloads.html.
> > >
> > > The CEDET package includes cogre, ede, eieio, semantic and speedbar.
> > >
> > > Extract these two files and then modify ~/.emacs with the following:
> > >
> > > ;; Load ECB
> > > (setq semantic-load-turn-everything-on t)
> > > (load-file "/PATH/TO/CEDET/cedet-1.0pre3/common/cedet.el")
> > >
> > > (add-to-list 'load-path "/PATH/TO/ECB/ecb-snap")
> > > (require 'ecb)
> > >
> > >
> > > And all seems well.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Marc Schwartz
> > >
>
>

-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Statistical Computing Team
Structural Biology and Biocomputing Programme
Spanish National Cancer Centre (CNIO)
http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

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