Re: [R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

From: Martin Maechler <>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:02:15 +0200

>>>>> "VE" == Vladimir Eremeev <> >>>>> on Tue, 5 Jun 2007 01:39:47 -0700 (PDT) writes:

    VE> irishhacker wrote:
>> Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and
>> customized user interface?

Well, that's VERY MUCH a matter of point of view, and the view is most probably very highly dependent on your year of birth. For many old timers like me, e-mail is at least as natural as web browsing. I see that such an attitude becomes more and more outdated.

    VE> There was a discussion of this some time ago on the
    VE> list.  I believe, RSiteSearch("r-help mailing list
    VE> forum") or some other similar keywords will find it.

    VE> irishhacker wrote:
>> What's the best way to view and read discussions in this
>> group for recent days? Can I view the postings for the
>> current day via Google Groups?

 Well, one way is still *subscribing* to R-help and  occasionally helping each other,
 instead of just perusing it as a resource ...

>> GMANE was mentioned already.

    VE> I use the Nabble interface
    VE> (, it seems more
    VE> convenient to me, but it collects less lists than Gmane.

Yes, but it appends its silly footer (aka "advertizement") to all mails sent out, luring people to use it.

I (as mailing list manager) have considered more than once to just evaporate such footers as I evaporate most other spam-footers (as e.g. from hotmail, yahoo, gmx, ...).

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich

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