Re: [R] glm expand model to more values

From: Jarek Jasiewicz <jarekj_at_amu.edu.pl>
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:06:04 +0100

Charles Annis, P.E. wrote:
> How many parameters are you trying to estimate? How many observations do
> you have?
>
> What is wrong is that half of your parameter estimates are statistically
> meaningless:
>
> dd <- data.frame(a=c(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), b=c(3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10))
>
> overparameterized.model <- glm(b~poly(a,3),data=dd)
>
> summary(overparameterized.model)
>
>
> Coefficients:
> Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
>
> (Intercept) 6.6667 0.1725 38.644 0.000669 ***
>
> poly(a, 3)1 5.7371 0.4226 13.576 0.005382 **
>
> poly(a, 3)2 -0.1091 0.4226 -0.258 0.820395
>
> poly(a, 3)3 0.2236 0.4226 0.529 0.649562
>
>
>
>
> Charles Annis, P.E.
>
> Charles.Annis_at_StatisticalEngineering.com
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-help-bounces_at_r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces_at_r-project.org] On
> Behalf Of Jarek Jasiewicz
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:50 AM
> To: R-help_at_r-project.org
> Subject: [R] glm expand model to more values
>
> Hi
>
> I have the problem with fitting curve to data with lm and glm. When I
> use polynominal dependiency, fitted values from model are OK, but I
> cannot recive proper values when I use coefficents to caltulate this.
> Let me present simple example:
>
> I have simple data.frame: (dd)
> a: 1 2 3 4 5 6
> b: 3 5 6 7 9 10
>
> I try to fit it to model:
>
> model=glm(b~poly(a,3),data=dd)
> I have following data fitted to model (as I expected)
> > fitted(model)
> 1 2 3 4 5 6
> 3.095238 4.738095 6.095238 7.333333 8.619048 10.119048
>
> and coef(model)
> (Intercept) poly(a, 3)1 poly(a, 3)2 poly(a, 3)3
> 6.6666667 5.7370973 -0.1091089 0.2236068
>
> so when I try to expand the model to other data (simple extrapolation),
> let say: s=seq(1:10,by=1)
>
> I do:
> extra=sapply(s,function(x) coef(model) %*% x^(0:3))
> and here is result:
> [1] 12.51826 19.49328 28.93336 42.18015 60.57528 85.46040 118.17714
> [8] 160.06715 212.47207 276.73354
>
> the data form expanding coefs are completly differnd from fitted
>
> What's going wrong?
>
> Jarek
>
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sorry but I cannot understand. What does it means data are statistically meanningless?

It is examle with very simple data which I use according to simpleR manual example to check why I cannot recive expected result. I need simple model y~x^3+x^2....+z to extrapolate data Jarek



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