Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do in SAS or SPSSbut simple in R

From: Walter Paczkowski <dataanalytics_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:42:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)


Good morning,

I use SAS and R/S-Plus as my primary tools so I have a lot of experience with these programs. By far and away, SAS is superior for handling the "messy" datasets, but also the very large ones. I work at times with datasets in the hundreds of thousands (and on occasion, millions) of records. SAS, and especially PROC SQL, are invaluable for this. But once I get to datasets manageable for R/S-Plus, then I ship to these tools for the programming and graphics. This seems to work great.

Walt Paczkowski
Data Analytics Corp.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob Robinson <rob.robinson_at_bto.org>
>Sent: Jan 17, 2008 4:31 AM
>To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
>Subject: Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do in SAS or SPSSbut simple in R
>
>
>I wonder if those who complain about SAS as a programming environment have
>discovered SAS/IML which provides a programming environment akin to Matlab
>which is more than capable (at least for those problems which can be treated
>with a matrix like approach). As someone who uses both SAS and R - graphical
>output is so much easier in R, but for handling large 'messy' datasets SAS
>wins hands down...
>Cheers
>Rob
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-help-bounces_at_r-project.org
>> [mailto:r-help-bounces_at_r-project.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey J. Hallman
>> Sent: 16 January 2008 22:38
>> To: r-help_at_stat.math.ethz.ch
>> Subject: Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do
>> in SAS or SPSSbut simple in R
>>
>> SAS has no facilities for date arithmetic and no easy way to
>> build it yourself. In fact, that's the biggest problem with
>> SAS: it stinks as a programming environment, so it's always
>> much more difficult than it should be to do something new.
>> As soon as you get away from the canned procs and have to
>> write something of your own, SAS falls down.
>>
>> I don't know enough about SPSS to comment.
>> --
>> Jeff
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