# Re: [R] matrix inversion using solve() and matrices containing large/small values

Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:48:51 -0500

Sorry, I meant to send this to the whole list.

On Mar 5, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:

> The problem doesn't necessarily have to do with the range of data.
> At first level, it has to do with the simple fact that dfdb has
> rank 6 at most, (7 at most in general, though in your case since
> 290=10*29, it is at most 6). Since matrix rank only goes down when
> multiplying, your infomatrix is an 8x8 matrix, with rank at most 6
> (7 if you were more lucky with that 290, still not good enough), so
> it is certainly not invertible, even forgetting the computational
> issues of computing the inverse.
>
> You would need either power smaller than 7, or a longer dosis
> vector, I think.
>
> If you manage to make your problem in a case where dfdb is square,
> then you just have to invert that, which might be easier, seeing
> how it's a Vandermonde matrix.
>
> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Hanover College
>
> On Mar 5, 2008, at 8:21 AM, gerardus vanneste wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I've stumbled upon a problem for inversion of a matrix with large
>> values,
>> and I haven't found a solution yet... I wondered if someone could
>> give a
>> hand. (It is about automatic optimisation of a calibration
>> process, which
>> involves the inverse of the information matrix)
>>
>> code:
>>
>> *********************
>>> macht=0.8698965
>>> coeff=1.106836*10^(-8)
>>
>>> echtecoeff=c
>>> (481.46,19919.23,-93.41188,0.5939589,-0.002846272,8.030726e-6
>> ,-1.155094e-8,6.357603e-12)/10000000
>>> dosis=c(0,29,70,128,201,290,396)
>>
>>
>>> dfdb <-
>> array(c
>> (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,dosis,dosis^2,dosis^3,dosis^4,dosis^5,dosis^6,dosis^7)
>> ,dim=c(7,8))
>>
>>> dfdbtrans = aperm(dfdb)
>>> sigerr=sqrt(coeff*dosis^macht)
>>> for(i in 1:7){
>> (-4),sigerr[i])
>>
>> }
>>> infomatrix = dfdbtrans%*%omega%*%dfdb
>> **********************
>>
>> I need the inverse of this information matrix, and
>>
>>> infomatrix_inv = solve(infomatrix, tol = 10^(-43))
>>
>> does not deliver adequate results (matrixproduct of infomatrix_inv
>> and
>> infomatrix is not 1). Regular use of solve() delivers the error
>> 'system is
>> computationally singular: reciprocal condition number: 2.949.10^
>> (-41)'
>>
>>
>> So I went over to an eigendecomposition using eigen(): (so that
>> infomatrix =
>> V D V^(-1) ==> infomatrix^(-1)= V D^(-1) V^(-1) )
>> in the hope this would deliver better results.)
>>
>> ***********************
>>> infomatrix_eigen = eigen(infomatrix)
>>> infomatrix_eigen_D = diag(infomatrix_eigen\$values)
>>> infomatrix_eigen_V = infomatrix_eigen\$vectors
>>> infomatrix_eigen_V_inv = solve(infomatrix_eigen_V)
>> ***********************
>>
>> however, the matrix product of these are not the same as the
>> infomatrix
>> itself, only in certain parts:
>>
>>> infomatrix_eigen_V %*% infomatrix_eigen_D %*% infomatrix_eigen_V_inv
>>> infomatrix
>>
>>
>> Therefore, I reckon the inverse of eigendecomposition won't be
>> correct
>> either.
>>
>> As far as I understand, the problem is due to the very large range
>> of data,
>> and therefore results in numerical problems, but I can't come up
>> with a way
>> to do it otherwise.
>>
>>
>> Would anyone know how I could solve this problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> (PS, i'm running under linux suse 10.0, latest R version with MASS
>> libraries
>> (RV package))
>>
>> F. Crop
>> UGent -- Medical Physics
>>
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