Re: [R] Interesting remarks about R back in 1999

From: Spencer Graves <>
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:08:03 -0800

      Many people love Mathematica, but it's strength is symbolic mathematics, not data analysis. Googling for "data analysis in Mathematica and R" led me to an advertisement for a Mathematica add-on called "RLink", which is an "exciting new tool [to] leverage the statistical analysis power of R from within Mathematica! ... Overall, R contains perhaps the most advanced data analysis capabilities of any data analysis package ... . RLink ... allows Mathematica users to embed R in their Mathematica applications."

      In the late 1990s, colleagues raved about Mathematica and pushed me to use it. I tried several times, but never figured out how to get Mathematica to read a simple csv file and do things I did handily in S-Plus. Doubtless, that was partly my fault, because a book on "Data Analysis Using Mathematica" carries a copyright date of 1995. Some people had evidently solved the problems that overwhelmed my interest level at that time.

      Today, if I wanted symbolic mathematics, I might try Yacas ( -- and the Ryacas package). Mathematica is probably superior to Yacas, but I'd have to be convinced that the difference was sufficient to justify the extra expense.

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francogrex wrote:
> Hi, this is not an R-help post, but I found this extract below that was
> written by a leading mathematician back in 1999 when he was talking about
> statistics and computing. I found it interesting to share and I ask your
> opinion do you think this still holds today or things have changed? Thanks.
> “...we would also like to mention that in our opinion Mathematica provides
> an excellent and indeed unparalleled environment for mathematical
> statistical research. In comparison, no other computing environment provides
> such high quality capabilities simultaneously in: symbolics, numerics,
> graphics, typesetting and programming. Typically most researchers need to
> develop some code to implement their methods. Often the researcher’s code
> will only be executed a few times and the researcher’s main consideration is
> his time and effort as opposed to producing an cpu-efficient stand-alone
> software product. The importance of a powerful user-oriented programming
> language for researchers is sometimes lacking in other environment.
> …comments have been made by research statisticians on the ease of
> programming in S and Splus as opposed to SAS. If the programming language is
> a natural extension of mathematical notation, this translates into ease and
> speed of development. This was found to be true in the past with APL, Splus
> and XLISP-STAT. We have found that Mathematica provides even more
> capability. However, for advanced state-of-the-art research and teaching in
> applied statistics and data analysis, R, Splus or XLISP-STAT may still be
> advantageous due to the wide usage by many leading researchers and the high
> quality functions for standard and advanced statistical methods that are
> available in the associated infrastructure (Statlib 1999). Furthermore, R
> and XLISPSTAT are freeware. However from the educational viewpoint, this
> advantage may not be so important since many students and researchers like
> to understand the principles involved. With Mathematica it is as easy to
> write out the necessary functions in Mathematica notation as it would be to
> explain the procedures in a traditional mathematical notation. In summary,
> Mathematica’s superior programming language is, in our opinion, one of its
> key strengths and advantages.”
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