Re: [R] AMOVA results from ade4 different than in the reference publication

From: Stéphane Dray <dray_at_biomserv.univ-lyon1.fr>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:46:15 +0200

Hi,

Ben is correct. The alternative hypothesis is not good for this test (within pop). I will modify it and submit a new version of the package on CRAN (probably next week).

BTW, for question about ade4 please send your email to adelist (http://listes.univ-lyon1.fr/wws/info/adelist)

Cheers.

Ben Bolker wrote:
> Kim Milferstedt <milferst <at> uiuc.edu> writes:
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to run some AMOVA analyses with the amova function in the
>> package ade4.
>>
>> When running the example dataset provided in ade4, I noticed a
>> difference between the published results from the same data (Excoffier
>> et al. 1992) and what ade4 calculates.
>>
>>
>
> A generic answer to this type of question is that you should contact
> the package maintainers (see help(package="ade4") for their
> e-mail addresses) -- especially for
> these kinds of specialized questions (most R-helpers are not population
> geneticists and wouldn't know an AMOVA if it bit them) ...
>
> On the other hand, running example(randtest.amova) [which is
> what I assume you did, although you don't say] I do confirm
> your results, and furthermore the plot that is produced looks
> like the p-value *should* be very low -- and the std. obs.
> is large (which I think is a *good* thing from the point of
> view of rejecting null hypothesis -- seems like this is the
> analogue of a t- or z-score), but negative. Perhaps the package
> authors did an upper 1-tailed test by mistake? (I would follow
> through with this but it looks like the important stuff goes
> through into C code and I can't take the time to dig that
> deep right now.)
>
> Bottom line: looks like a mistake, take it up with
> the package maintainers.
>
> good luck,
> Ben Bolker
>
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