Re: [R] shapiro wilk normality test

From: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding_at_manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:01:55 +0100 (BST)


Many thanks to Berwin, and also to Charles Annis, for the references. The're good!
Ted.

On 13-Jul-08 15:22:03, Berwin A Turlach wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:55:38 +0100 (BST)
> (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding_at_manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>

>> On 13-Jul-08 13:29:13, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > A large P-value means nothing more than needing more data.  No 
>> > conclusion is possible.  

>
> I would have thought that "we need more data" would qualify as a
> conclusion. :)
>
>> > Please read the classic paper Absence of Evidence is not Evidence
>> > for Absence.
>> 
>> Is that ironic, Frank, or is there really a "classic paper" with
>> that title? If so, I'd be pleased to have a reference to it!

>
> Of course, I do not know for sure which paper Frank has in mind, but
> google and google schoar readily come up with papers/editorials that
> have a nearly identical title:
>
> http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/311/7003/485
> http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7438/476
> (see also
> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=351831)
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6829975
>
> My money is on Frank having the first of these publications in mind.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Berwin
>
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