From: Marc Schwartz <MSchwartz_at_medanalytics.com>

Date: Wed 14 Jul 2004 - 08:04:50 EST

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Date: Wed 14 Jul 2004 - 08:04:50 EST

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 15:02, Rolf Turner wrote:

> Marc Schwartz wrote (in response to a question from Jordi Altirriba):

snip

> This does not solve the problem that was posed. It only permutes the

*> blocks, and does not allow for swapping between blocks. For instance
**> it does produce the ``acceptable'' permutation
**>
**> 1 2 4 | 3 5 6 | 7 8 9 | 10 11 12 YES-----2nd permutation
**>
**> I would guess that a correct solution is likely to be pretty
**> difficult. I mean, one ***could*** just generate all 12!
**> permutations of 1 to 12 and filter out the unacceptable ones. But
**> this is getting unwieldy (12! is close to half a billion) and is
**> inelegant. And the method does not ``generalize'' worth a damn.
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Rolf,

You are correct. I missed that (not so subtle) change in the line above. I mis-read the "inter-blocks (no intra-blocks)" requirement as simply permuting the blocks, rather than allowing for the swapping of values between blocks. Time for new bi-focals...

As Robert has also pointed out in his reply, this gets quite unwieldy.

One of the follow up questions might be, is it only allowable that one value at a time can be swapped between blocks or can multiple values be swapped between blocks simultaneously?

I am not sure that it makes a substantive impact on the problem or its solution, however. The question is what is to be done with the resultant set of permutations?

FWIW, on a 3.2 Ghz P4 with 2Gb of RAM:

> system.time(perms <- permutations(12, 12, 1:12))

Error: cannot allocate vector of size 1403325 Kb Timing stopped at: 2274.27 54.58 2787.76 0 0

Marc

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