Re: [R] normality test

From: Frank E Harrell Jr <f.harrell_at_vanderbilt.edu>
Date: Fri 29 Apr 2005 - 00:50:16 EST

Achim Zeileis wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:52:33 -0500 roger koenker wrote:
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>>For my money,  Frank's comment should go into fortunes.  It seems a
>>rather Sisyphean battle to keep the lessons of robustness on the 
>>statistical table but nevertheless well worthwhile.

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> Added.
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> On more comment: maybe it's also worth noting that you don't necessarily
> have to rank-transform the data. Instead you can also use a permutation
> test based on the original observations.

That deals with type I error but not necessarily type II error. -Frank

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>>url:    www.econ.uiuc.edu/~roger                Roger Koenker
>>email   rkoenker@uiuc.edu                       Department of
>>Economics vox:    217-333-4558                            University
>>of Illinois fax:    217-244-6678                            Champaign,
>>IL 61820
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>>On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:46 AM, Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
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>>>Usually (but not always) doing tests of normality reflect a lack of 
>>>understanding of the power of rank tests, and an assumption of high 
>>>power for the tests (qq plots don't always help with that because of
>>>their subjectivity).  When possible it's good to choose a robust 
>>>method.  Also, doing pre-testing for normality can affect the type I
>>>error of the overall analysis.
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Frank E Harrell Jr   Professor and Chair           School of
>>>Medicine
>>>                     Department of Biostatistics   Vanderbilt 
>>>University
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                      Department of Biostatistics   Vanderbilt University

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