Re: [R] Random seed problem in MCMC coupling of chains

From: Paul Gilbert <pgilbert_at_bank-banque-canada.ca>
Date: Thu 09 Jun 2005 - 01:10:43 EST

The tools in setRNG are intended for this kind of problem and I do use them regularly in much more complicated situations. They help save all the information, in addition to the seed, that you need for reproducible simulations. Try

niter <- 3
  nchain <- 2
  for (i in 1:niter) { # iterations
    tmpSeed <- setRNG()
    for (j in 1:nchain) { # chains

      setRNG(tmpSeed)
      a <- runif(1)
      cat("iter:", i, "chain:", j, "runif:", a, "\n")
    }
  }
iter: 1 chain: 1 runif: 0.8160078
iter: 1 chain: 2 runif: 0.8160078
iter: 2 chain: 1 runif: 0.4909793
iter: 2 chain: 2 runif: 0.4909793
iter: 3 chain: 1 runif: 0.4425924
iter: 3 chain: 2 runif: 0.4425924

HTH,
Paul Gilbert

Gorjanc Gregor wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I am performing coupling of chains in MCMC and I need the same value
> of seed for two chains. I will show demo of what I want:
>
> R code, which might show my example is:
> niter <- 3
> nchain <- 2
> tmpSeed <- 123
> for (i in 1:niter) { # iterations
> for (j in 1:nchain) { # chains
> set.seed(tmpSeed)
> a <- runif(1)
> cat("iter:", i, "chain:", j, "runif:", a, "\n")
> tmpSeed <- .Random.seed
> }
> }
>
> I get this:
>
> iter: 1 chain: 1 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 1 chain: 2 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 2 chain: 1 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 2 chain: 2 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 3 chain: 1 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 3 chain: 2 runif: 0.43588
>
> but I would like to get:
>
> iter: 1 chain: 1 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 1 chain: 2 runif: 0.43588
> iter: 2 chain: 1 runif: 0.67676
> iter: 2 chain: 2 runif: 0.67676
> iter: 3 chain: 1 runif: 0.12368
> iter: 3 chain: 2 runif: 0.12368
>
> Note that seed value is of course changing, but it is parallel
> between chains.
>
> I am able to do only this, since setting seed at the beginning
> of chain i.e iteration is not a problem, but I want an upper
> scheme, since I compare chains and stop one if some condition is
> satisfied.
>
> tmpSeed <- 123
> for (i in 1:nchain) { # chains
> set.seed(tmpSeed)
> for (j in 1:niter) { # iterations
> a <- runif(1)
> cat("iter:", j, "chain:", i, "runif:", a, "\n")
> }
> }
> iter: 1 chain: 1 runif: 0.28758
> iter: 2 chain: 1 runif: 0.7883
> iter: 3 chain: 1 runif: 0.40898
> iter: 1 chain: 2 runif: 0.28758
> iter: 2 chain: 2 runif: 0.7883
> iter: 3 chain: 2 runif: 0.40898
> iter: 1 chain: 3 runif: 0.28758
> iter: 2 chain: 3 runif: 0.7883
> iter: 3 chain: 3 runif: 0.40898
>
> I was looking in 'rlecuyer', 'rsprng' and 'setRNG', but did not find
> anything usable for me. From reading on http://sprng.cs.fsu.edu/
> 'rsprng' provides just opposite of what I want, 'rlecuyer' is a bit
> to technical for me, but I think it also doesn't give identical
> seed for parallels. 'setRNG', especially it's function 'getRNG()'
> looks nice but its arguments should have seed stored. How can one
> do that?
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Lep pozdrav / With regards,
> Gregor Gorjanc
>
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