Re: [R] staying with R, jobs in R

From: Adaikalavan Ramasamy <ramasamy_at_cancer.org.uk>
Date: Tue 30 Aug 2005 - 11:37:31 EST

Like Berton Gunter said, jobs are usually classified by subject than softwares used. It is difficult to change the mindset of people in a workplace that worships software A and condemns software B. Try learning enough of A to know its weakness/strengths and demonstrate some examples where B can do the job much better than A. Warning : This can be a slow and sometimes a pointless one.

What you should be looking for instead is for a flexible and understanding employer that will allow you to experiment with other softwares. You could enquire about this before you apply for a given job. My biased opinion is that academic line gives you this flexibility. If you are interested in academia in UK, check out www.jobs.ac.uk.

As for bio/pharamaceutical-related jobs, especially those dealing with *omics technology, knowledge of R and BioConductor can be a real advantage. Some of these are advertised on the BioConductor mail list.

Regards, Adai

On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 11:04 -0500, Weiwei Shi wrote:
> Hi, there:
> Could I ask another question, which is a little bit off-topic; but I
> tried hard and did not get good enough info... so please help
>
> I am very interested in seeing where to find those
> bio/pharmaceutical-related industries, using R and data mining as
> approaches?
>
> thank you very much!
>
> weiwei
>
> On 8/29/05, Berton Gunter <gunter.berton@gene.com> wrote:
> > Avneet:
> > Not to throw a wet blanket on your enthusiam for R (which I share) but ...
> >
> > -- Bert Gunter
> > Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
> > South San Francisco, CA
> >
> > "The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
> > process." - George E. P. Box
> >
> >
> > Your better off finding a
> > > job you like
> > > at a company you like and then convincing them that R is
> > > better (not to
> > > mention the R skill set you are bringing to the table).
> > > Good luck to you.
> > > Roger
> >
> > Fine advice, but a tad unrealistic. The reality (according to Bert):
> >
> > 1. Most jobs for statisticians are in the pharmaceutical/medical industry
> > (which includes academic research centers) in clinical trials. Data: See job
> > ads in Amstat News.
> >
> > 2. For better or worse, in this arena SAS is the standard. You will **not**
> > -- repeat, NOT -- convince industrial employers who have thousands of lines
> > of legacy infrastructure code and legions of SAS programmers to change. You
> > may well make some inroads in academic research venues. In both, you will
> > generally be free to use whatever software you like for your own work, but
> > the final code submitted for FDA approval will almost certainly necessarily
> > be SAS. Rail all you like, but those are the realities.
> >
> > 3. Another significant amployer of statisticians these days is the "finance"
> > industry (credit scoring and the like). Data: See Amstat News ads again.
> > There S-Plus is already widely used, so you should have no difficulty using
> > R and even getting others to adopt it.
> >
> > I think outside these arenas -- for example, in industrial research and
> > engineering centers or in pre/non-clinical pharmaceutical work, you'll again
> > be free to use what you like. But there are relatively few jobs there, so
> > that despite Roger's noble advice (with which I again agree), first you
> > gotta eat and pay the mortgage.
> >
> > And I also say: good luck.
> >
> > -- Bert
> >
> > -- Bert Gunter
> > Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
> > South San Francisco, CA
> >
> > "The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
> > process." - George E. P. Box
> >
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