Re: [R] Multilevel logistic regression using lmer vs glmmPQL vs. gllamm in Stata

From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley_at_stats.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Wed 03 Aug 2005 - 17:22:13 EST

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Bernd Weiss wrote:

> I am trying to replicate some multilevel models with binary outcomes
> using R's "lmer" and "glmmPQL" and Stata's gllmm, respectively.

That's not going to happen as they are not using the same criteria.

> The data can be found at <http://www.uni-koeln.de/~ahf34/xerop.dta>.
>
> The relevant Stata output can be found at <
http://www.uni-
> koeln.de/~ahf34/stataoutput.txt>. First, you will find the
> unconditional model, i.e. no level1- or 2-predictor variables. The
> second model contains some level 1-predictor variables
>
> My R file can be found at <http://www.uni-koeln.de/~ahf34/xerop.R>.
>
> Beside the fact that there is a difference between the estimates of
> the intercept (unconditional model: R: -2.76459 and Stata: -2.698923)
> I am especially interested in the level 2 variance.
>
> In Stata the level 2 variance is about 1.03, while in R it is 4.68.
>
> Using glmmPQL from package MASS again gives different results for the
> level 2 variance component. What is meant by "Residual"? I thought
> the level 1 variance is fixed to (pi^2)/3.

Please read the book for which this is support software, as it definitely does not say that, and it does explain how such differences can occur.

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Brian D. Ripley,                  ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk
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