Re: [R] Forum of Mac questions (Was: loading packages - mac user)

From: Martin Maechler <>
Date: Wed 19 Oct 2005 - 21:36:03 EST

>>>>> "BDR" == Prof Brian Ripley <> >>>>> on Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:58:20 +0100 (BST) writes:

    BDR> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Jari Oksanen wrote:
>> On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 13:13 -0700, Thomas Lumley wrote:

    >>> Both for this and for working out why Tcl/Tk isn't
    >>> installed you might be better off trying R-sig-mac
    >>> rather than r-help

>> This is a very common piece of advice. However, this is
>> not what you would imagine if you read the description of
>> R-SIG-mac on the R home page:

    BDR> It is not actually on the R home page or even on     BDR> I think you mean


    BDR> This arises because the purpose of the list has changed     BDR> from

    BDR> R Special Interest Group on Macintosh Development     BDR> and Porting, both for MacOS 8.6 - 9.x and MacOS X

    BDR> I think a wording like R-sig-debian namely

    BDR> R Special Interest Group for MacOS X ports of R

    BDR> would be better.

yes, thank you both ---- IFF this is really the intention.

Stefano Iacus is the maintainer (and initiator) of the list and should say (and maybe ask on the R-SIG-Mac list) what he (and the subscribers) really wants.

>> R-SIG-Mac R Special Interest Group on Mac Development
>> This is very similar to the description of R-devel:
>> This list is intended for questions and discussion about
>> code development in R.
>> And that description is even more intimidating when you
>> read further:
>> Questions likely to prompt discussion unintelligible to
>> non-programmers or topics that are too technical for
>> R-help's audience should go to R-devel
>> Would it make sense to change the description of
>> R-SIG-mac so that it would welcome question on R usage in
>> Mac, instead of being a "Mac Devolepment" forum that
>> sounds like being "unintelligible to non-programmers"?

    BDR> Which seems quite reasonable to me.  The topics which
    BDR> provoke this response usually are questions
    BDR> unintelligible except to Mac sysadmins/programmers and
    BDR> definitely `too technical for R-help's audience'.

I agree. We shouldn't let R users on the Mac think that all their questions should go to R-SIG-Mac.
Regular R questions should continue to come to R-help (or R-devel) just as per the posting guide.

Martin Maechler

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    BDR> Applied Statistics,
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