From: Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer_at_hsu-hamburg.de>

Date: Thu 05 Jan 2006 - 21:03:57 EST

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Date: Thu 05 Jan 2006 - 21:03:57 EST

Only or the record:

There is a wiki for R in general, used by only but a few people, annouced here some year(s) ago: http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl

The question is: one or more wikis?

Detlef

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:35:17 +0100

Philippe Grosjean <phgrosjean@sciviews.org> wrote:

> David Forrest wrote:

*> > [...]
**> > Any volunteers?
**>
**> Yes, me (well, partly...)! Here is what I propose: this is a very
**> lengthy thread in R-Help, with many interesting ideas and suggestions. I
**> fear that, as it happens too often, those nice ideas will be lost
**> because of the support used: email! By nature, emails are read and then
**> deleted (well, there is the R-Help archive, but anyway, threads in a
**> mailing list is not at all the best tool to make collaborative documents
**> like those tutorials and co).
**>
**> I just cooked a little Wiki *dedicated to R beginners* (meaning they can
**> contribute too, and are very welcome to discuss their problems -possibly
**> trivial for others-). It is available at
**> http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki. For the moment, everyone can edit
**> and add pages, but I will restrict rights in the future to logged users
**> only (with everybody allowed to log in at any time). So that we will be
**> able to track who made changes (authorship).
**>
**> For those who do not know the Wiki concept, it is a very simple way of
**> working together in the same documents. The concept has proven very
**> powerful with a good example being Wikipedia, that is becoming one of
**> the largest encyclopedia in the world... and also as accurate as
**> Encyclopedia Britannica (but read this:
**> http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/full/438900a.html).
**>
**> Here is the introduction of the R (GUI) Wiki:
**>
**> This Wiki is mainly dedicated to deal with R beginners problems.
**> Although we would like to emphasize using R GUIs (Graphical User
**> Interfaces), this Wiki is not restricted to those GUIs: one can also
**> deal with command-line approaches. The main idea is thus to have
**> material contributed by both beginners, and by more advanced R users,
**> that will help novices or casual users of R (http://www.r-project.org).
**>
**> Overview
**>
**> * The various documents in the [[wiki section]] explain how to use
**> DokuWiki to edit documents in this site.
**>
**> * The [[beginners section]] is dedicated to... beginners (share
**> experience, expose problems and difficulties useful to share with other
**> beginners, or to get help from more advanced people).
**>
**> * The [[tutorials section]] is the place where you can put various R
**> session examples, or short tutorials on either general or specific use of R.
**>
**> * The [[easier section]] aims to collect together various pieces of R
**> code that simplifies various tasks (especially for beginners) and that
**> will ultimately be compiled in a â€œeasieRâ€ R packages on CRAN.
**>
**> * The [[varia section]] is for any material that does not fit in the
**> previous sections.
**>
**>
**> Final note: working with Wikis requires some learning... So, I am not
**> sure at all that many R beginners will contribute to this wiki, but, of
**> course, I hope so. Just let's pretend that it is a small experiment to
**> try answering requests for another Internet space than R-Help,
**> specifically dedicated to beginners...
**>
**> A good starting point would be the following: all people that expressed
**> interesting points in this thread could "copy and paste their ideas" to
**> new pages in the Wiki.
**>
**> Best,
**>
**> Philippe Grosjean
**>
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**>
**> David Forrest wrote:
**> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
**> > ...
**> >
**> >>In fact there are some things that are very easy
**> >>to do in Stata and can be done in R but only with more difficulty.
**> >>For example, consider this introductory session in Stata:
**> >>
**> >>http://www.stata.com/capabilities/session.html
**> >>
**> >>Looking at the first few queries,
**> >>see how easy it is to take the top few in Stata whereas in R one would
**> >>have a complex use of order. Its not hard in R to write a function
**> >>that would make it just as easy but its not available off the top
**> >>of one's head though RSiteSearch("sort.data.frame") will find one
**> >>if one knew what to search for.
**> >
**> >
**> > This sort of thing points to an opportunity for documentation. Building a
**> > tutorial session in R on how one would do a similar analysis would provide
**> > another method of learning R. "An Introduction to R" is a good bottom-up
**> > introduction, which if you work through it does teach you how to do
**> > several things. Adapting other tutorials or extended problems, like the
**> > Stata session, to R would give additional entry points. A few end-to-end
**> > tutorials on some interesting analyses would be helpful.
**> >
**> > Any volunteers?
**> >
**> > Dave
**>
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