Re: [R] Trailing on r-help messages

From: Martin Maechler <maechler_at_stat.math.ethz.ch>
Date: Tue 18 Jul 2006 - 00:41:24 EST

Thanks to Gabor, Spencer, and Hadley,
for the constructive propositions.

>>>>> "hadley" == hadley wickham <h.wickham@gmail.com> >>>>> on Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:39:36 +0100 writes:

>> I think that is likely true but it would at least mean that they had
>> seen it repeatedly and there would really be no excuse for not following it
>> (unlike the current situation where one needs to take action to follow
>> the posting guide link and then read a lengthy page).

    hadley> Logically, that makes sense. However, try asking a group of R users     hadley> how to cite R (or how to find out how to cite R).

    hadley> I think it's a good idea to make the default list
    hadley> signature as good as possible, I just don't think it
    hadley> will have that much effect.  Supplying a small
    hadley> reproducible example when reporting an error is
    hadley> "common-sense" (how else will the developers/others
    hadley> be able to replicate it?) and yet it is very rare
    hadley> (not just in R, but in any project).

I can well agree to slightly extend the R-help message footer, e.g., to 4 instead of 3 lines.
Maybe we can move discussion of the final wording "off list". I also agree that the effect from that change will probably not be very big.

To other points made:

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
(Maintainer of R-help and a few other R-* mailing lists)



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