[R] Trying to use segmented in a function

From: Rob Knell <R.Knell_at_qmul.ac.uk>
Date: Wed 02 Aug 2006 - 21:04:45 EST

Hi folks

I wonder if anyone can help me. I want to run some simulations to see how big a sample size might be necessary to distinguish a curved bivariate relationship (e.g. something that might be best described by a quadratic model) from a relationship that is two straight lines with a sudden change in slope (e.g. something best described by a breakpoint regression). I am using segmented to do the breakpoint regression: this package seems to be the one that most people use for this, as far as I can see.

Since I want to run some simulations, I'm trying to write functions that use segmented, and it's driving me mad. Here's a simple example:

(Ns=200,Xmean=20,Xsd=5,SdYerr=0.5,Yint=0,threshold=20,slopebelow=0.5,slo peabove=1)





This code should simply simulate some "breakpoint" data, with the change in slope at "threshold" and then fit a model with segmented. If I just use the code for simulating the data, and run that, and then run segmented as normal in R, then I occasionally get an error when it exceeds the maximum iterations, but 99% of the time it will fit a model happily. When I incorporate it into the function, however, it will sometimes fit a model (about 20% of the time) but most of the time I get this:

> test<-simdata()

Error in segmented.lm(linmod, Z = Xs, psi = threshold) :

        (Some) estimated psi out of its range

I emphasise that this is using exactly the same code to simulate the data that gives good results when used without segmented in the function. I'm even giving it the exact right value of the breakpoint to start with in its estimation.

If anyone could give me some advice on where I'm going wrong, I would be very pleased to hear it.

Thanks everyone

Rob Knell

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Queen Mary, University of London

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