Re: [R] Linear Trend in Residiuals From lme

From: Rick Bilonick <>
Date: Thu 10 Aug 2006 - 06:55:39 EST

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 15:04 -0500, Douglas Bates wrote:
> On 8/9/06, Rick Bilonick <> wrote:
> > I'm fitting a mixed effects model:
> >
> > fit.1 <- lme(y~x,random=~1|id,data=df)
> >
> > There are two different observations for each id for both x and y. When
> > I use plot(fit.1), there is a strong increasing linear trend in the
> > residuals versus the fitted values (with no outliers). This also happens
> > if I use random=~x|id. Am I specifying something incorrectly?
> Could you provide a reproducible example please?
> I suspect that the problem comes from having only two observations per
> level of id. When you have very few observations per group the roles
> of the random effect and the per-observation noise term in explaining
> the variation become confounded. However, I can't check if this is
> the case without looking at some data and model fits.

I tried using geeglm from geepack to fit a marginal model. I understand this is not the same as a mixed effects model but the residuals don't have the linear trend. Should I avoid using lme in this case?

Rick B. mailing list PLEASE do read the posting guide and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Received on Thu Aug 10 07:38:57 2006

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